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		<title>By: fellow anti-bully</title>
		<link>http://www.janegoodwin.net/2010/02/15/ick-and-ire-warning/comment-page-1/#comment-48131</link>
		<dc:creator>fellow anti-bully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jane Goodwin:

&quot;Major thumbs up for you, fellow haters of bullies! I&#039;m fed up with them existing and I wish that they never existed. I believe that everything you typed about bullying and victims is true. There should be more people like you in this world.

I&#039;ve been bullied a lot and I&#039;m tired of it. Therefore, I want to eliminate bullying from this world forever. Same thing goes for people who support it.&quot;

@jess:

&quot;I&#039;m with you and Jane. I suggest that all bully hater should unite against bullies and their butt kissers.&quot;

@OldOldLady Of The Hi:

&quot;Another congratulations to you. It pleases me that there are anti-bully people in this world like me.&quot;

@bonnie:

&quot;You don&#039;t know how blind you are. Izzy&#039;s freakin&#039; delusional in that he thinks that all bullied victims should be friends their torturers and give into them. He also blames bullied victims even though he claims that he doesn&#039;t.

You&#039;re a traitor to goodness if you take Izzy&#039;s advice. By taking that advice, you&#039;re encouraging others to support villainy.&quot;

@Lauren:

&quot;I&#039;m so sorry about what happened to you. I can emotionally feel your pain as I&#039;ve gone through a similar situation as you. It pains me that there are people who think and claim that that those who report bullies are weak. They&#039;re the ones who are weak. I mean, not all victims can&#039;t solve all their problems by themselves. Sometimes, they need help.&quot;

@d kowalski:

&quot;Shut the hell up, you hypocrite! You&#039;re one of the only bad commentators in this article. Hell, you&#039;re the worst one here because you don&#039;t know what goes on the victims minds. In other words, you don&#039;t put yourself in the victims&#039; shoes and know what it&#039;s like to bullied.

In case you haven&#039;t noticed, not every victim is the same. Had it occurred to you that not all victims respond to bullying the same way? Think of how they feel!

You&#039;re so blind to the suffering of others that you blame them. Hell, you suggest that we should go after criminals instead of name callers but also suggest that we should teach namby pambies not be victims and that this is a nation of sissies. How hypocritical and narrow-minded you are.

If I hadn&#039;t known any better, I&#039;d say that you secretly kiss the asses of bullies and give into the cliched delusion that only strong survive.

You insensitive, inconsiderate, and selfish brat! Didn&#039;t your parents teach you to care for others besides yourself? It&#039;s people like you who make the world are a terrible place.

And since when isn&#039;t name calling a small deal? Not everyone can handle name calling well!

For example, let&#039;s say you badmouth your elders. That&#039;s just as bad as physical hurting anyone. Whoever came up with the idea that sticks and stones can break bones but words will never hurt anyone is a liar.

You state that bullying needs to be stopped but use free speech as an excuse to hurt others. Suppose one of your loved ones has an extreme disability or died somebody badmouthed him or her. Would you like that?

It seems to me that you&#039;re the sissy here in that you&#039;re a coward who bows down to bullies and is afraid to get in trouble for making more victims in this world.

If you state that bullying should be stopped, don&#039;t use free speech as an excuse to harm anyone. Words can hurt as much as sticks and stones.

You know? You remind me of pacifists, who are hypocrites because they seem to support bullies and are against necessary violence. If you ask me, you could go to jail if you get a victim in trouble.

Jane Goodwin&#039;s right about what she typed in this article. You should be grateful that she&#039;s taking a stand against bullying.

Think about what I&#039;ve told you. If not, you can go straight to hell for all I care.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jane Goodwin:</p>
<p>&#8220;Major thumbs up for you, fellow haters of bullies! I&#8217;m fed up with them existing and I wish that they never existed. I believe that everything you typed about bullying and victims is true. There should be more people like you in this world.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been bullied a lot and I&#8217;m tired of it. Therefore, I want to eliminate bullying from this world forever. Same thing goes for people who support it.&#8221;</p>
<p>@jess:</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m with you and Jane. I suggest that all bully hater should unite against bullies and their butt kissers.&#8221;</p>
<p>@OldOldLady Of The Hi:</p>
<p>&#8220;Another congratulations to you. It pleases me that there are anti-bully people in this world like me.&#8221;</p>
<p>@bonnie:</p>
<p>&#8220;You don&#8217;t know how blind you are. Izzy&#8217;s freakin&#8217; delusional in that he thinks that all bullied victims should be friends their torturers and give into them. He also blames bullied victims even though he claims that he doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a traitor to goodness if you take Izzy&#8217;s advice. By taking that advice, you&#8217;re encouraging others to support villainy.&#8221;</p>
<p>@Lauren:</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m so sorry about what happened to you. I can emotionally feel your pain as I&#8217;ve gone through a similar situation as you. It pains me that there are people who think and claim that that those who report bullies are weak. They&#8217;re the ones who are weak. I mean, not all victims can&#8217;t solve all their problems by themselves. Sometimes, they need help.&#8221;</p>
<p>@d kowalski:</p>
<p>&#8220;Shut the hell up, you hypocrite! You&#8217;re one of the only bad commentators in this article. Hell, you&#8217;re the worst one here because you don&#8217;t know what goes on the victims minds. In other words, you don&#8217;t put yourself in the victims&#8217; shoes and know what it&#8217;s like to bullied.</p>
<p>In case you haven&#8217;t noticed, not every victim is the same. Had it occurred to you that not all victims respond to bullying the same way? Think of how they feel!</p>
<p>You&#8217;re so blind to the suffering of others that you blame them. Hell, you suggest that we should go after criminals instead of name callers but also suggest that we should teach namby pambies not be victims and that this is a nation of sissies. How hypocritical and narrow-minded you are.</p>
<p>If I hadn&#8217;t known any better, I&#8217;d say that you secretly kiss the asses of bullies and give into the cliched delusion that only strong survive.</p>
<p>You insensitive, inconsiderate, and selfish brat! Didn&#8217;t your parents teach you to care for others besides yourself? It&#8217;s people like you who make the world are a terrible place.</p>
<p>And since when isn&#8217;t name calling a small deal? Not everyone can handle name calling well!</p>
<p>For example, let&#8217;s say you badmouth your elders. That&#8217;s just as bad as physical hurting anyone. Whoever came up with the idea that sticks and stones can break bones but words will never hurt anyone is a liar.</p>
<p>You state that bullying needs to be stopped but use free speech as an excuse to hurt others. Suppose one of your loved ones has an extreme disability or died somebody badmouthed him or her. Would you like that?</p>
<p>It seems to me that you&#8217;re the sissy here in that you&#8217;re a coward who bows down to bullies and is afraid to get in trouble for making more victims in this world.</p>
<p>If you state that bullying should be stopped, don&#8217;t use free speech as an excuse to harm anyone. Words can hurt as much as sticks and stones.</p>
<p>You know? You remind me of pacifists, who are hypocrites because they seem to support bullies and are against necessary violence. If you ask me, you could go to jail if you get a victim in trouble.</p>
<p>Jane Goodwin&#8217;s right about what she typed in this article. You should be grateful that she&#8217;s taking a stand against bullying.</p>
<p>Think about what I&#8217;ve told you. If not, you can go straight to hell for all I care.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: d kowalski</title>
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		<dc:creator>d kowalski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 20:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;get them OUT of the building so they can’t hurt anyone else, and to concentrate on the feelings of the victims.&quot;
Hurt feelings? C&#039;mon. Oh, the big bad bully hurt my feelings. Boo-hoo.
Words only hurt if you let them hurt. The only way a bully&#039;s words can hurt you is if you actually value the bully&#039;s opinion. Bullying needs to be stopped, but the constitution still protects free speech.
How about teaching these mammy pambies not to be victims. Go after the criminals, those kids that inflict real harm to others, and not the name callers.
What a nation of sissies we have become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;get them OUT of the building so they can’t hurt anyone else, and to concentrate on the feelings of the victims.&#8221;<br />
Hurt feelings? C&#8217;mon. Oh, the big bad bully hurt my feelings. Boo-hoo.<br />
Words only hurt if you let them hurt. The only way a bully&#8217;s words can hurt you is if you actually value the bully&#8217;s opinion. Bullying needs to be stopped, but the constitution still protects free speech.<br />
How about teaching these mammy pambies not to be victims. Go after the criminals, those kids that inflict real harm to others, and not the name callers.<br />
What a nation of sissies we have become.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://www.janegoodwin.net/2010/02/15/ick-and-ire-warning/comment-page-1/#comment-39556</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 21:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently heard that sometimes school officials might psychologically side with a bully.  This comes from the theory that the victems are usually socail outcasts and the bullies tend to be the &quot;normal&quot; kids.  When the victems report the bullying they are seen as weak by the officials and ignored or looked at as whiners.  I was bullyed almost every day when I was in 2nd grade.  I would always run to the teacher, but the teacher began to get sick of me and told me to stop &quot;tattle-telling&quot;.  It wasn&#039;t until the other kids became violent that the school officals took me and my parents seriously.  So what did they do?  They transfered me to another school, so I had to start all over with even less friends than I had before, and they put me in a remedial program that was intended for kids with learning disabilities not social disabilities.  So my education suffered as well.  When I just now heard about this new theory that school officials sometimes look down victims of bully&#039;s it broght up my anger again made me want to do research on this.  If anyone has any info I would love to learn more.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently heard that sometimes school officials might psychologically side with a bully.  This comes from the theory that the victems are usually socail outcasts and the bullies tend to be the &#8220;normal&#8221; kids.  When the victems report the bullying they are seen as weak by the officials and ignored or looked at as whiners.  I was bullyed almost every day when I was in 2nd grade.  I would always run to the teacher, but the teacher began to get sick of me and told me to stop &#8220;tattle-telling&#8221;.  It wasn&#8217;t until the other kids became violent that the school officals took me and my parents seriously.  So what did they do?  They transfered me to another school, so I had to start all over with even less friends than I had before, and they put me in a remedial program that was intended for kids with learning disabilities not social disabilities.  So my education suffered as well.  When I just now heard about this new theory that school officials sometimes look down victims of bully&#8217;s it broght up my anger again made me want to do research on this.  If anyone has any info I would love to learn more.  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: bonnie</title>
		<link>http://www.janegoodwin.net/2010/02/15/ick-and-ire-warning/comment-page-1/#comment-28745</link>
		<dc:creator>bonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 04:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you familiar with Izzy Kalman&#039;s Bullies to Buddies program, Jane? 

Of course, he has a blog: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/psychological-solution-bullying

xo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you familiar with Izzy Kalman&#8217;s Bullies to Buddies program, Jane? </p>
<p>Of course, he has a blog: <a href="http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/psychological-solution-bullying" rel="nofollow">http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/psychological-solution-bullying</a></p>
<p>xo</p>
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		<title>By: OldOldLady Of The Hi</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldOldLady Of The Hi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, Indeed!  It all is backwards, isn&#039;t it? The bully&#039;s succeed in bullywing the whole school board!!! Good Lord! What a mess....! I would find this all so very very hard Jane....How can this be turned around?  I wish there was a good solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, Indeed!  It all is backwards, isn&#8217;t it? The bully&#8217;s succeed in bullywing the whole school board!!! Good Lord! What a mess&#8230;.! I would find this all so very very hard Jane&#8230;.How can this be turned around?  I wish there was a good solution.</p>
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		<title>By: jess</title>
		<link>http://www.janegoodwin.net/2010/02/15/ick-and-ire-warning/comment-page-1/#comment-28264</link>
		<dc:creator>jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say this all to often on your blog, but AMEN! I work at a private school right now, and bullies get away with too much, because they are &quot;misunderstood.&quot; No, they are bullies, and they shouldn&#039;t get away with manipulating and tearing others down (mentally, emotionally, and/or physically). I&#039;m sick of seeing it and seeing parents make terrible excuses for their children when they do this stuff. It just makes me wonder where they got the idea that being that way is okay. Yes, parents of these kids, I&#039;m looking at you. Why do they think it&#039;s okay to beat up others?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say this all to often on your blog, but AMEN! I work at a private school right now, and bullies get away with too much, because they are &#8220;misunderstood.&#8221; No, they are bullies, and they shouldn&#8217;t get away with manipulating and tearing others down (mentally, emotionally, and/or physically). I&#8217;m sick of seeing it and seeing parents make terrible excuses for their children when they do this stuff. It just makes me wonder where they got the idea that being that way is okay. Yes, parents of these kids, I&#8217;m looking at you. Why do they think it&#8217;s okay to beat up others?</p>
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